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The Secrets of Flowers

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:39 pm
by minniev
What the heck is going on here? I was trying a side angle to these black eyed susans, which were rattier than most I've seen for so early in the season. I spotted the odd fellow on top and sought to include him in some degree of sharpness while still getting the flower.

Of course, with my not-so-great near vision I missed the army traveling in formation below. What are they all up to? Are they related or interdependent or just different kinds of travelers out for a picnic?

And most of all, how would stuff like this be best photographed? What/who should be in focus and who not? What angle?
I'm not exactly asking for critique because I know the photo is not much to work with, but for future reference, when you have an entire community living on a plant, what then?

Re: The Secrets of Flowers

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:21 pm
by Psjunkie
That's up to the eye of the artist and story wanted I think, I will say had you not mentioned the odd fellow up top I would have mistaken him for browned petal edges...I find the image enjoyable as is...

Re: The Secrets of Flowers

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:50 pm
by Matt Quinn
Love it the way it is Minnie. Nice and sharp for my eyes.

All critter great and small out for a picnic and a stroll.

Matt

Re: The Secrets of Flowers

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:48 pm
by PietFrancke
with all the traffic I find this pretty interesting. You might play with white frame within image kind of things if you wanted to highlight the action, but as you have it is plenty cool. The yellows and greens look super good. I like the detail of the old center piece/crown, the spider I could do without (he is hard to get nice without him being the focal point, but with the army on the march, they steal the show..

Re: The Secrets of Flowers

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:55 am
by Duck
Considering there is som much activity going on, this presentation works well. Of course with the finer detail of the ants this is not an image you can appreciate on a small scale. It calls to be big. I particularly love how the line of ants are silhouetted along the stem against the light green of the background. Very well captured but I'd lie if I were you... You did spot those ants and it's what prompted you to capture such a stunning scene. :-D

Re: The Secrets of Flowers

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:58 pm
by minniev
Psjunkie wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:21 pm
That's up to the eye of the artist and story wanted I think, I will say had you not mentioned the odd fellow up top I would have mistaken him for browned petal edges...I find the image enjoyable as is...
Thanks Frank. It seems I even take busy close up shots..

Re: The Secrets of Flowers

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:00 pm
by minniev
Matt Quinn wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:50 pm
Love it the way it is Minnie. Nice and sharp for my eyes.

All critter great and small out for a picnic and a stroll.

Matt
Thanks Matt. I am still learning about the compromises to be made in close up stuff.

Re: The Secrets of Flowers

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:06 pm
by minniev
PietFrancke wrote:
Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:48 pm
with all the traffic I find this pretty interesting. You might play with white frame within image kind of things if you wanted to highlight the action, but as you have it is plenty cool. The yellows and greens look super good. I like the detail of the old center piece/crown, the spider I could do without (he is hard to get nice without him being the focal point, but with the army on the march, they steal the show..
As everyone knows, I'm prone to keep everything in the frame even when I shouldn't. I agree he may not be clear enough and if he were they wouldn't be, so everything is a bit compromised. I don't think it's a spider, I've just called them OtherBugs. I've seen what I think is the same ones on these very same flowers (same type, same location), and I've never been able to identify them.. I think this is a more mature version from 2 summers ago.

Re: The Secrets of Flowers

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:08 pm
by minniev
Duck wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:55 am
Considering there is som much activity going on, this presentation works well. Of course with the finer detail of the ants this is not an image you can appreciate on a small scale. It calls to be big. I particularly love how the line of ants are silhouetted along the stem against the light green of the background. Very well captured but I'd lie if I were you... You did spot those ants and it's what prompted you to capture such a stunning scene. :-D
Thanks Duck. You're right, this isn't really a photo for close study. Thanks for giving me permission to think of it as a whole rather than focusing on its parts, to my frustration.

Re: The Secrets of Flowers

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:23 pm
by Charles Haacker
minniev wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:06 pm
As everyone knows, I'm prone to keep everything in the frame even when I shouldn't. I agree he may not be clear enough and if he were they wouldn't be, so everything is a bit compromised. I don't think it's a spider, I've just called them OtherBugs. I've seen what I think is the same ones on these very same flowers (same type, same location), and I've never been able to identify them.. I think this is a more mature version from 2 summers ago.
I am pretty sure that whatcha got there is a Acanthocephala declivis nymph, a nymph of the Coreidae, or Leaf-footed Bugs. They are harmless to humans, mostly feed on plants. http://www.austinbug.com/coreidae.html Your bug is the 5th picture down, or you can see lots of them here: https://www.google.com/search?q=Acantho ... 96&bih=703