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Post by PietFrancke » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:33 am

that I have been struggling with, that I want to like, but don't. And have been have a hard time with color space too...
I swear prophotoRGB messes me up every time, I think I will just stick to sRGB and keep life simple.

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Post by minniev » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:10 pm

Srgb for web posting always. I ended up using it for outsourced printing to get better results.

These are quietly beautiful just as they are but have potential to be even more. These will be great once you apply your magic. I’d probably start by overlaying the first on each of the others to see what happens. Color and texture, judiciously applied, will turn those two bird images from nice to stunning.
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Post by pop511 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:47 pm

Don't knock prophoto.
It is 16 bit with a wide colour space
srgb is the smallest colour space and is usually 8 bit.
You want as much data as you can while editing.
Yes your monitor may only see srgb and not all the data, and may give you a nasty surprise when printing.
If you feel that srgb is the way for you, then colour convert before you print,
If your printer only has 4-5 cartridges, then stay with srgb or adobe98.
It wont print the full range of colours especially Prophoto, and most printers can't.
As for me, I print in the Adobe 98 space.
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Post by PietFrancke » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:13 pm

minniev wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:10 pm
Srgb for web posting always. I ended up using it for outsourced printing to get better results.

These are quietly beautiful just as they are but have potential to be even more. These will be great once you apply your magic. I’d probably start by overlaying the first on each of the others to see what happens. Color and texture, judiciously applied, will turn those two bird images from nice to stunning.
thank you Minnie - I will not give up on them, at least not yet.

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Post by PietFrancke » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:20 pm

pop511 wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:47 pm
Don't knock prophoto.
It is 16 bit with a wide colour space
srgb is the smallest colour space and is usually 8 bit.
You want as much data as you can while editing.
Yes your monitor may only see srgb and not all the data, and may give you a nasty surprise when printing.
If you feel that srgb is the way for you, then colour convert before you print,
If your printer only has 4-5 cartridges, then stay with srgb or adobe98.
It wont print the full range of colours especially Prophoto, and most printers can't.
As for me, I print in the Adobe 98 space.
Kind regards;
ed
thanks Ed, I appreciate hearing the advantages of prophoto, particularly when you are likely to do a bit of editing. My nasty surprise with it was more about posting the images (after upload and while previewing) and seeing crazy colors. Normally all I have to do is export the layer to sRGB and everything is ok, but this time round they had whacked colors no matter what I did.. I probably have a setting wrong somewhere, but I was not happy. I could see the bad colors even on the thumbnail when I went to upload them and assigning a colorspace or converting to a colorspace wasn't helping me either.

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Post by pop511 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:16 am

Got it, Piet;
Don't think I have had this problem
Can anyone help?
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Post by Matt Quinn » Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:26 am

Piet, If I had taken the first, I would jump up and down and leave it alone. But, I am eager to see what you do.

Free associating--in the first I see Elvira Madigan, Van Gogh, and Christina's World. It's bedtime I guess. Matt
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Post by PietFrancke » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:30 am

pop511 wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:16 am
Got it, Piet;
Don't think I have had this problem
Can anyone help?
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I have things sorted out now...

I somehow got my monitor to be in prophoto mode, which is not the correct thing to do and causes problems. I did a new monitor calibration and got it back to sRGB (the monitor). And suddenly everything is OK again. I can use prophoto color space within PS and export a jpg in sRGB and everything is working as it should. Thanks Ed, for getting back to me on this, it was confusing and frustrating.

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Post by PietFrancke » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:31 am

Matt Quinn wrote:
Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:26 am
Piet, If I had taken the first, I would jump up and down and leave it alone. But, I am eager to see what you do.

Free associating--in the first I see Elvira Madigan, Van Gogh, and Christina's World. It's bedtime I guess. Matt
Ha! thanks Matt - I make no promises on that one.

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Post by pop511 » Mon Jul 16, 2018 12:02 pm

Colour calibration/spaces and printing modes. Will it ever be solved in the 21st century?
We've all been there.
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