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Post by Matt Quinn » Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:11 pm

This is a superlative and valuable thread and exchange. I benefit greatly from reading the self-reflections people provide. Thank you, Piet. And thank you, Duck, for the straight-arrow mentoring; only that helps. It doesn't hurt, as Piet has noted.

Question: how do I bookmark or tag this page so I can return to it?

And Piet, with a nose like that, no wonder that flim had to flam. Man! Matt
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Post by PietFrancke » Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:03 pm

Matt Quinn wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:11 pm
This is a superlative and valuable thread and exchange. I benefit greatly from reading the self-reflections people provide. Thank you, Piet. And thank you, Duck, for the straight-arrow mentoring; only that helps. It doesn't hurt, as Piet has noted.

Question: how do I bookmark or tag this page so I can return to it?

And Piet, with a nose like that, no wonder that flim had to flam. Man! Matt
there is Nothing Wrong with my Nose! Oh, you mean the bird's nose, I got all defensive for nuttin... sniff

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Post by Duck » Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:23 pm

PietFrancke wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:13 pm
[...] I struggle with "seeing". Once something is seen, it can be dealt with, even if dealt with poorly, but when one is blind, then even an elephant isn't recognized. I want to SEE.

The good news is that can be learned. Seeing creatively is a matter of applying what you know to what you create. The more you know the more you can apply. Oversimplified? Yes, but the foundation is what matters.

Ask any successful writer what their number one advice is and they'll tell you, "read more."
Ask any successful chef what their number one advice is and they'll tell you, "eat more interesting foods."
Heck, even in the art world the number one saying is, "all great artists 'borrow' inspiration from other artists."

See the theme here? If you want to get better at being creative you need to look at creative work that resonates and inspires you. The creativity comes from interpreting those influences into your own imagery. It's not copying since everything about the process will be different; the subject, the light, the equipment and your interpretations.

Where the disconnect (and frustrations) lie is in not having the technical skills to apply your vision, but that too can be overcome. Take classes and put in practice time to learn and hone new skills. Or, as they say in showbiz, "how do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice, practice, practice!"
"If you didn't learn something new today, you wasted a day."
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Post by Duck » Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:30 pm

Matt Quinn wrote:
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Question: how do I bookmark or tag this page so I can return to it?

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Post by PietFrancke » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:14 pm

Duck wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:23 pm
PietFrancke wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:13 pm
[...] I struggle with "seeing". Once something is seen, it can be dealt with, even if dealt with poorly, but when one is blind, then even an elephant isn't recognized. I want to SEE.

The good news is that can be learned. Seeing creatively is a matter of applying what you know to what you create. The more you know the more you can apply. Oversimplified? Yes, but the foundation is what matters.

Ask any successful writer what their number one advice is and they'll tell you, "read more."
Ask any successful chef what their number one advice is and they'll tell you, "eat more interesting foods."
Heck, even in the art world the number one saying is, "all great artists 'borrow' inspiration from other artists."

See the theme here? If you want to get better at being creative you need to look at creative work that resonates and inspires you. The creativity comes from interpreting those influences into your own imagery. It's not copying since everything about the process will be different; the subject, the light, the equipment and your interpretations.

Where the disconnect (and frustrations) lie is in not having the technical skills to apply your vision, but that too can be overcome. Take classes and put in practice time to learn and hone new skills. Or, as they say in showbiz, "how do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice, practice, practice!"
thanks - from this I take: Look more at the things that interest/excite you. Then, (and perhaps only then), say "how did he do that?". Or "what can I do that mimics it?". With the foundation being able to pin point "what is the aspect of this that I find interesting?", so that the next question can be "how do you do that? - what makes that work?"

In short, my homework is to find something I like, think how I might apply that to one of my pieces, and then give it a shot. With the intent that I will be exposed to more, see more, and practice the application of hopefully a new skill.

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Post by Matt Quinn » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:23 pm

Piet, I plan to follow your journey. Keep posting please. I will learn from you. Matt
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Post by Duck » Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:28 pm

PietFrancke wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:14 pm
thanks - from this I take: Look more at the things that interest/excite you. Then, (and perhaps only then), say "how did he do that?". Or "what can I do that mimics it?". With the foundation being able to pin point "what is the aspect of this that I find interesting?", so that the next question can be "how do you do that? - what makes that work?"

In short, my homework is to find something I like, think how I might apply that to one of my pieces, and then give it a shot. With the intent that I will be exposed to more, see more, and practice the application of hopefully a new skill.
Ah, smell that? It's a breath of fresh air!

I wish all my students were as astute as you are. You got it, right on the nose.
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Post by PietFrancke » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:01 am

Matt Quinn wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:23 pm
Piet, I plan to follow your journey. Keep posting please. I will learn from you. Matt
thank you Matt, indeed.. we learn from each other!

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Post by PietFrancke » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:05 am

Duck wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:28 pm
PietFrancke wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:14 pm
thanks - from this I take: Look more at the things that interest/excite you. Then, (and perhaps only then), say "how did he do that?". Or "what can I do that mimics it?". With the foundation being able to pin point "what is the aspect of this that I find interesting?", so that the next question can be "how do you do that? - what makes that work?"

In short, my homework is to find something I like, think how I might apply that to one of my pieces, and then give it a shot. With the intent that I will be exposed to more, see more, and practice the application of hopefully a new skill.
Ah, smell that? It's a breath of fresh air!

I wish all my students were as astute as you are. You got it, right on the nose.
Thank you Duck, I will document my thinking on my next piece/thread, following that formula of find, think, copy/apply, review and spell out my thoughts. I think somebody once said that if you can't write it down, the thought didn't happen, or something like that.

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