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Post by PietFrancke » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:05 pm

our hummingbird feeder is close to the regular feeder. When the regulars show up, little meanie face dive bombs them and then returns to her perch and waits for her next victim. Only the fearless nuthatch can remain brave in her presence.

The background was not so good, and the focus ended up on the breast instead of on the eye, but I liked the texture of the feathers and the canvas like texture that replaced the background - but I think the image is over-worked. That's what I think, what do You think?
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Post by minniev » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:46 pm

PietFrancke wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:05 pm
our hummingbird feeder is close to the regular feeder. When the regulars show up, little meanie face dive bombs them and then returns to her perch and waits for her next victim. Only the fearless nuthatch can remain brave in her presence.

The background was not so good, and the focus ended up on the breast instead of on the eye, but I liked the texture of the feathers and the canvas like texture that replaced the background - but I think the image is over-worked. That's what I think, what do You think?

hum2S.jpg
Love the canvas-y background, and it solves the problem of the slightly missed focus (plus you have that nice glint in his eye). I like it but I know what you mean about overworked, as I sometimes end up with the same problem. Sometimes my feeling is because of the textures and sometimes it's because of what the texture did to the color or contrast. The remedies are different depending on which thing is bothering you. The stuff I try includes:
-Changing the texture completely
-Changing the blend mode and/or opacity of the texture
-Fully or partially desaturating the texture, or tinting it a different color
-Brushing more of the texture out of the subject (looks like you've already done that)
-Adding a curves layer to boost the contrast
-Adding another texture over the top of the thing (seems counterintuitive but sometimes pulls together a bunch of elements that don't seem to be working together)
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Post by PietFrancke » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:12 am

thanks for that extensive list.. on the quick redo, I muted the colors on the texture more, and I did a horizontal motion blur - that helped remove some of the vertical lines that were pulling my eyes down (I think)..
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Post by minniev » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:42 am

PietFrancke wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:12 am
thanks for that extensive list.. on the quick redo, I muted the colors on the texture more, and I did a horizontal motion blur - that helped remove some of the vertical lines that were pulling my eyes down (I think).. hum2S-1.jpg
This is better. Easier to look at, and the texture isn’t fighting the bird.
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Post by Psjunkie » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:23 am

Always just an opinion Piet, but I like the warmth on the hummer in the original...you've lost that with the second, maybe mask the hummer back out. Always dependent on subject, but textureI I find hard to get right without distracting from subject....here just a hint should suffice as any more distracts from the wonderful texture you captured with the feathers from your bird....

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Post by PietFrancke » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:43 am

Psjunkie wrote:
Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:23 am
Always just an opinion Piet, but I like the warmth on the hummer in the original...you've lost that with the second, maybe mask the hummer back out. Always dependent on subject, but textureI I find hard to get right without distracting from subject....here just a hint should suffice as any more distracts from the wonderful texture you captured with the feathers from your bird....
Thank you Frank, I did mask, but not fully, so you are absolutely correct that the warmth was muted on the bird. Adding a touch more warmth to the bird should move it closer too. Thanks!

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Post by PietFrancke » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:25 pm

added some warmth and saturation back to the demon bird - now perhaps to make it's eye glow red...
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Post by PietFrancke » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:51 pm

after a restless night and no morning coffee, the little bird is more cranky than ever. Walk by at your own risk.
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Post by Psjunkie » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:57 pm

Funny.....

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Post by Charles Haacker » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:28 pm

DEMON HUMMINGBIRDS! RUN! RUNNNN!!! Okay, nuff'a that. I liked the first one fine, and do not find it at all overworked as to my eye it looks very much like a painting rather than a photograph, and that's why I think it works wonderfully. It could be an Audubon color plate. I find the various reworks to be less engaging because the iridescent green (especially) has been muted. I don't think it should be. Maybe it's not totally accurate but I prefer it to any of the others.
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