Duck wrote:This is why I like to avoid written narratives... I am now confused.
The title says "lineman at work" but I see an image of a bird, no lineman, yet you say this image isn't about the bird. I'm going to have to ask for some form of clarification here because I feel I'm missing something.
LindaShorey wrote:The overall lines are greatly appealing to me. I was just telling Steve yesterday how I love taking photos of birds on wires. I was even thinking of doing a share topic, so we must be mind melding again I haven't yet viewed the video in the link Steve provided on "dynamic symmetry" so this photo is a good nudge to go do that.
Additionally I like the dead branches climbing the pole and the fact that it's a raptor perched precariously on the wire (I only see them on the wooden crossbars and we have them in abundance). It seems like that's more old fashioned wiring with those knob things, but maybe I'm just not observant enough with my own, or always shooting into the bright light for silhouettes so don't notice.
If you're recovered from your surgery enough to talk about your own framing choices, I'd love to hear 'cause this is one I can't quite put into words. Thanks Minnie!
minniev wrote:I suspect I'm still thinking in gibberish but backing off on the meds today so not quite as addled as yesterday. Won't be trying to explain any complex ideas though.
I liked all the elements you listed - bird, lines, vines, weathered pole, the old insulators, so squashed them into one composition, with my usual preference for lines going from lower left corner to upper right corner and the other stuff a little off center, resting on a series of triangles behind and below the bird. Of course it didn't quite fit that arrangement but it never does.
minniev wrote:I wasn't sure where to put this one, though it should have been obvious, because the bird is not the subject, but only a bit player in the larger composition involving those lines and triangles. At any rate, tell me what you think of it and what you advise.
Charles Haacker wrote:minniev wrote:I wasn't sure where to put this one, though it should have been obvious, because the bird is not the subject, but only a bit player in the larger composition involving those lines and triangles. At any rate, tell me what you think of it and what you advise.
So dynamic symmetry. I'm still trying to figger out thirds and golden rations (autocorrect did that but I'm leaving it 'cuz it's funny). I tried very hard to read that piece and look at all the intersecting lines happily obscuring the pitcher beneath and O EM GEE what new torture is this?! Ack! No! I refuse to play!!
I like this picture! Very much! But to me the raptor is most certainly and emphatically the subject. The lines are great, leading, diagonal, crossing, making triangles, all very nice and backgroundy and stuff, but the bird! (Redtail I think.) S/he is raptly (sorry but not really) ...raptly with her little eye skewering some unfortunate small brown eyed critter far below. You can see her head cocked ever so slightly to her right shoulder. She grips the wire tensely and leans slightly forward, watching for that fraction of a second when brown eyes is too exposed and DOWN she will plummet like a rock! This is a great picture! What a story, gore and all (we all gotta eat). Now, I will concede that it may be that dynamic symmetry has obviated the need to place the bird on the upper left intersection of the gawd'a'mighty thirds, which we all know (snark) is photographic holy writ, but I find the picture dramatic and appealing regardless of compositional foofrippery. It's bad enough that I have the holy grid of thirds on in my finder at all times lest I sin, but the fact is I often ignore it and go with my gut. Now I'm supposed to mentally draw MORE flippin' lines before I release the shutter? I say again, Ack! No! I refuse to play!!
minniev wrote:Thank ya Chuck, glad you liked it. I don't know how to draw those lines either, but I see shape-filled geometry without even thinking about it, it is built into how I see in a way I can't explain. So even though most of that article sailed over my head (I hadn't heard that term before), the triangles and lines looked comfortingly familiar.
The Min Method does not rely on drawing anything mentally or physically, it relies instead on spotting the shapes and lines and stuffing them into whatever section of the frame I feel like they best fit into. So, I can't discuss it with any intelligence, but I think I know what it's made of! (lines).
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