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Re: Dali's The Nobility of Time

Post by minniev » Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:34 pm

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Ever soooo cool Minnie !!! Love it.
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Post by PietFrancke » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:12 pm

minniev wrote:
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Thanks Piet. I was a little put off by Andorra which has given up its old buildings for modern plastic-cy architecture, but the Dali sculpture was a fun find. It seemed a bit shocking that it was sitting right there in the public crosswalk, with people climbing on it and such, exposed to the elements, and no one paying much attention. Just the tiny sign at the foot, with his name.
I'd be curious to see the original, your color work is just beautiful.
Here's the original
seeing the original, I really love how you emphasized it's natural colors and then gave it the beautiful background to help it along even further. It is awesome!

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Post by Charles Haacker » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:02 pm

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Here's the sculpture that inspired me to do a Masters on Dali. It's in the city of Andorra La Vella, capital of the tiny country of Andorra. But it's right in the middle of the shopping district surround by tourists, duty free shoppers, and boring looking modern stores. So I plucked it out.

Suggestions always welcome, I never know what to do with art objects that I photograph.
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OMG WHAT DID YOU USE TO "PLUCK" THAT OUT? A CHAINSAW? :o

I naturally had to enlarge it to see all the tiniest mistakes but they are there--they are there--someplace. I will hunt them down! And that BACKGROUND! OMG! GAH! MY EYES..... You "never know what to do with art objects that ... photograph"? Got THAT right! :x
(snarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarkety...)

So seriously, that's a literal standout job! I had no idea it was a composite and would not have known had it not been in the info. It's beautiful, that background is perfect, and the tones, the palette, the overall fit of the thing is fabulous. It looks like a studio shot. I do a lot of cutouts; I could not have done better! Probably not as good! You ARE good, Min! Don't forget it.
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Post by minniev » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:45 am

PietFrancke wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:12 pm
minniev wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:52 pm
PietFrancke wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:09 am


I'd be curious to see the original, your color work is just beautiful.
Here's the original
seeing the original, I really love how you emphasized it's natural colors and then gave it the beautiful background to help it along even further. It is awesome!
You saw what I was trying to do, which is encouraging - emphasize the colors in the piece, enrich them, and find a background that would add drama without being too disruptive. Glad it seems to work!
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Post by minniev » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:48 am

Charles Haacker wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:02 pm
minniev wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:40 pm
Here's the sculpture that inspired me to do a Masters on Dali. It's in the city of Andorra La Vella, capital of the tiny country of Andorra. But it's right in the middle of the shopping district surround by tourists, duty free shoppers, and boring looking modern stores. So I plucked it out.

Suggestions always welcome, I never know what to do with art objects that I photograph.
(snarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnark...)
OMG WHAT DID YOU USE TO "PLUCK" THAT OUT? A CHAINSAW? :o

I naturally had to enlarge it to see all the tiniest mistakes but they are there--they are there--someplace. I will hunt them down! And that BACKGROUND! OMG! GAH! MY EYES..... You "never know what to do with art objects that ... photograph"? Got THAT right! :x
(snarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarksnarkety...)

So seriously, that's a literal standout job! I had no idea it was a composite and would not have known had it not been in the info. It's beautiful, that background is perfect, and the tones, the palette, the overall fit of the thing is fabulous. It looks like a studio shot. I do a lot of cutouts; I could not have done better! Probably not as good! You ARE good, Min! Don't forget it.
Thanks so much Chuck! It’s just the plain old PS tools for extraction. I do most of mine manually, no channel masks or select color, just draw the thing and work from there. I had trouble with the wings on the right, thus left that angel in the shadow somewhat for disguise.
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Post by PietFrancke » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:54 am

PietFrancke wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:12 pm
minniev wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:52 pm
PietFrancke wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:09 am


I'd be curious to see the original, your color work is just beautiful.
Here's the original
seeing the original, I really love how you emphasized it's natural colors and then gave it the beautiful background to help it along even further. It is awesome!
ok, but now I would like to put you on the hook... You Emphasized the colors! How did you do that? Not curious about what slider you used, but rather, how did you see/choose/come up with/pick/know what colors to use??? Was it a warming process?, A saturation thing? I am astounded by how CLEAR and CLEAN your colors are.

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Post by minniev » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:42 am

PietFrancke wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:54 am
PietFrancke wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:12 pm
minniev wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:52 pm

Here's the original
seeing the original, I really love how you emphasized it's natural colors and then gave it the beautiful background to help it along even further. It is awesome!
ok, but now I would like to put you on the hook... You Emphasized the colors! How did you do that? Not curious about what slider you used, but rather, how did you see/choose/come up with/pick/know what colors to use??? Was it a warming process?, A saturation thing? I am astounded by how CLEAR and CLEAN your colors are.
I am sure I couldn’t duplicate whatever I did, but it involved playing with luminosity masks and color curves. This is something new to me and my knowledge is still in about the 1% range. I bought a contraption from Blake Rudis that sits inside of photoshop and makes it a little easier to do (though not necessarily to understand). It seemingly has a bunch of actions that are “called up” with buttons, and create the masks and manipulate the various tone and color curves, then you fiddle with them. That is all I know about that as Forest Gump would say.

Then i picked a background that had the colors I wanted to emphasize and used it for both background and overlay (the overlay at reduced opacity of course).
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Post by PietFrancke » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:57 am

minniev wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:42 am
PietFrancke wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:54 am
PietFrancke wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:12 pm

seeing the original, I really love how you emphasized it's natural colors and then gave it the beautiful background to help it along even further. It is awesome!
ok, but now I would like to put you on the hook... You Emphasized the colors! How did you do that? Not curious about what slider you used, but rather, how did you see/choose/come up with/pick/know what colors to use??? Was it a warming process?, A saturation thing? I am astounded by how CLEAR and CLEAN your colors are.
I am sure I couldn’t duplicate whatever I did, but it involved playing with luminosity masks and color curves. This is something new to me and my knowledge is still in about the 1% range. I bought a contraption from Blake Rudis that sits inside of photoshop and makes it a little easier to do (though not necessarily to understand). It seemingly has a bunch of actions that are “called up” with buttons, and create the masks and manipulate the various tone and color curves, then you fiddle with them. That is all I know about that as Forest Gump would say.

Then i picked a background that had the colors I wanted to emphasize and used it for both background and overlay (the overlay at reduced opacity of course).
thanks for sharing - I know what you mean about "being able to do it again".. My second kingfisher bird ended up with a very different feel than that the first one had, though I tried a similar process. I am very familiar with that 1 percent range, I know it well.. One Percent well..

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Post by Karen » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:29 pm

Whoa! This “before” and it’s “after” show an amazing command of the craft as well as personal vision, minniev!! Congrats!!!

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Post by minniev » Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:52 pm

Karen wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:29 pm
Whoa! This “before” and it’s “after” show an amazing command of the craft as well as personal vision, minniev!! Congrats!!!
Thanks, Karen. I am always challenged when I try to photograph art objects, because they are seldom in an appealing background. Usually the lighting is not conducive to photography, often tripods and flash are forbidden, there are visitors naturally coming to view the artwork who are not concerned about our picturetaking. Sometimes I try to create a more interesting backdrop for them, or do something else creative, just for the fun of it.
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