LindaShorey wrote:Would you talk about your vision for this b&w, Martha? I admit to generally being more attracted to b&w that have more tonal range and less tiny detail. It'd be great to talk about your own preferences and interests, if you don't mind.
Psjunkie wrote:I think this image could show more drama but that may not be what you wanted to present....as presented, for me it seems kinda muted.
minniev wrote:....I might prefer it in its colors, since it's a summer shot and probably has the variant greens one would expect from summer in the south.
Charles Haacker wrote:I've come back to this several times so obviously there's something there that you and I both saw, except I saw it in color. My take is that this scene (as presented) doesn't work particularly well in monochrome. I think it might be for lack of a center of true interest...as Linda and Frank already noted, the whole thing seems muted...I don't know what you use for PP, but I'm wondering about a crop from top and right to minimize the sky and the framing leaves....As a Lightroom fan I would then try graduated filters to reduce the exposure on the brighter parts to make the tree stand out more. You could even (if possible) reduce the sharpness on the farther background and maybe even add a bit of fog with the haze filter run in reverse. I'm sure other PP apps may have similar tools.
ceropegia wrote:Decided to answer you all together since your comments are interrelated. First thanks to you all for your comments. Linda, my vision was a primeval effect. But as pointed out, it really is quite muted. Charles and Minnie opined it they would probably prefer it in color. But in retrospect, I probably should never have attempted it in black and white. I do like the color version, better. Will post it under Landscapes with a different crop.
Charles, for post processing, I have primarily used Photoshop Elements now version 15 because I have become comfortable using it through the years. I do have Lightroom 5.1.7 which I use on occasion almost always in conjunction with PSE 15, but have never seemed to become comfortable with it. I have toyed with the NIK collection which I downloaded when it became free. Recently I have also acquired Corel PaintShop Pro 9 which seems to have some great tools that I have begun to explore but have in no way mastered. Another editor I have is Cyberlink PhotoDirector 7 which I have rarely attempted to use I acquired because it it came in a suite with video editing software I really wanted to have and it seemed to have good raw image and HDR processing capabilities (neither of which I have much experience with although you guys are close to getting me to shot raw which three of my cameras are able to do).
Taking Charles advice, I tried recropping it (below) but doubt that it is much of an improvement.
Matt Quinn wrote:Martha, I prefer the second image. I have often been confronted with a scene such as this and don't know how much to include in the photo or where to focus. I wind up just taking the photo, or several, hoping that I can see the photo within the photo when I get home. I still do that a lot, but the group here has edged me toward trying to see the final image before I shoot. I still can't and rely on the computer screen to guide me, but, as Chuck has noted, your natural photographer's eye "saw" something. For me, the downed tree is a distraction; I would try to narrow the shot, perhaps with a longer lens, to the "tunnel of light" left center. The scene seems to draw me in that way. Matt
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