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Post by minniev » Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:03 pm

This is an experiment (isn't most of what I post an experiment?). It's a snapshot I took a couple of weeks ago at a work retreat I helped host for my husband's office, at our country house. My husband works for the local Indian tribe, so most of his coworkers are Native Americans. This was shot late in the day, when everyone was hot and tired and full of hamburgers, but I thought this lady quite beautiful and her pensive expression was worth trying to make something more out of. So I carved her out of the throng of other participants, folding chairs, tents, barbecue grills and assorted debris, and worked with textures and layers to do something different. I know there's lots I should do better and want to get feedback. I'm terrible with selections, and pretty bad with people photos so anything can help. I don't want to glamour her, so I left most of the flaws, but I'm open to some improvements along those lines if they are not going too far from the character I'm trying to convey, if that makes any sense.
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Post by Matt Quinn » Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:36 pm

Leave it as you have it Minnie. That's what you saw. That's who she is. You caught a magic, fleeting minute and preserved it sensitively. Very well done. Matt
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Post by Psjunkie » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:14 am

Your image is splendid as is...but you asked

You know it's easier for me to show than tell.

I'll not say a word till I hear your likes and/or dislikes..then if needed try to explain.
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Post by mikec » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:06 am

I like it the way it is.
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Post by PietFrancke » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:18 am

beautiful work Min, I like the original softer rendition - I think it carries the character better. Perhaps it depends on Who it is, I like what Frank did to bring light, strength, and contrast in, but the original seems right. Can you tell us more about what you did Minnie, it is deep and beautiful!

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Post by minniev » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:19 pm

Matt Quinn wrote:
Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:36 pm
Leave it as you have it Minnie. That's what you saw. That's who she is. You caught a magic, fleeting minute and preserved it sensitively. Very well done. Matt
Thank you Matt. She's a lady who's had her share of troubles in the world, but has prevailed over them. I will share this with her when I'm done and if she wants it I'll get a print done.
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Post by minniev » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:21 pm

Psjunkie wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:14 am
Your image is splendid as is...but you asked

You know it's easier for me to show than tell.

I'll not say a word till I hear your likes and/or dislikes..then if needed try to explain.
Of course I'm interested in what you did. And I always appreciate your edits. While I may be sticking with a softer version because that's what I'm wanting to emphasize, I can see a valid interpretation that I'd like to know more about. it looks like you've got more detail/sharpening/contrast in the face, and more softening in the background just behind the face. Am I on the right track?
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Post by minniev » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:22 pm

mikec wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:06 am
I like it the way it is.
Thanks for your thoughts, Mike!
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Post by minniev » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:33 pm

PietFrancke wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:18 am
beautiful work Min, I like the original softer rendition - I think it carries the character better. Perhaps it depends on Who it is, I like what Frank did to bring light, strength, and contrast in, but the original seems right. Can you tell us more about what you did Minnie, it is deep and beautiful!
Thanks Piet. Here's the original, just a snapshot taken in the break after lunch and before the next activity started. It was her expression that caught my eye and I wanted to make something different. I started with extraction which I'm terrible at, then added background (a grungy sort of layer), then monochrome version in Tonality, a layer for masking with various rough brushes to "hide" things like the back of her chair and the design on the tshirt. From there it was dodge/burn, heal/clone and small brush work to blend edges, mitigate flaws. Then another texture layer of the same texture on top to help create depth.
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Post by PietFrancke » Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:40 pm

thanks - Tonality is a new tool? It looks awesome!

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