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Portrait of Lauren

Post by Duck » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:26 pm

I did a speedlight demo Saturday and Lauren was the lovely young lady that modeled for the group as I went over flash basics I was not concerned about getting a great portrait so much as demonstrating the effect of the flash at various configurations throughout the demonstration. However, I did end up with quite a few really nice shots. I thought I would take the opportunity with those images to really push my photo editing up a notch as I don't often get a chance to work with models. Here is one of my favorites from the bunch.

As always I ask for brutal honesty in the critique. Thanks.

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Post by minniev » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:21 pm

Duck wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:26 pm
I did a speedlight demo Saturday and Lauren was the lovely young lady that modeled for the group as I went over flash basics I was not concerned about getting a great portrait so much as demonstrating the effect of the flash at various configurations throughout the demonstration. However, I did end up with quite a few really nice shots. I thought I would take the opportunity with those images to really push my photo editing up a notch as I don't often get a chance to work with models. Here is one of my favorites from the bunch.

As always I ask for brutal honesty in the critique. Thanks.


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You know I know very little about portrait work so we’ll start there. I’ll respond as a photographer, not a portrait photographer.

A well posed and well made (with all that entails) image of a lovely young woman. Though I know nothing of lighting, it seems properly managed and appropriate for the pose. The hair is great; I’ve read that some people try to eliminate the “baby fuzz” around the hairline but I never thought it was necessary. The color throughout is well managed.

If I look hard, I can find a couple of little things to consider.

What would bother me a little is the roughened texture on her nose and near cheekbone area, which seem to want smoothing a bit, though not to the point of the plastic skin we see too often. She may or may not want that slight blemish by her nose repaired. The whiteness down the shine-line of her nose and across its bridge (sunglasses or those eye protectors without earpieces?) seem a very trifle too white.

I’d be interested to see your own critique once you’ve let us have a go!
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Post by PietFrancke » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:03 am

shoulder too bright, face too hard. Take with a grain of salt, but go dark with accent on hair, eyes and lips and perhaps a tighter crop.

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Post by Matt Quinn » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:01 am

The nose jumps out at me, Duck. Don't know whether that was what it was, or you were too close. I read something once about noses, angles and close-up portraits, but I have forgotten what it said exactly other than don't get too close to the nose. Matt
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Post by Psjunkie » Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:00 am

Duck wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:26 pm
As always I ask for brutal honesty in the critique. Thanks.
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I think honesty will work Duck, nothing has to be brutal.......strictly from my viewpoint which has no validity what so ever, her eyes are cocked too far left, (move camera a touch more to her right, then make her look into the lens). Duplicate the original layer add a filter called blur-average and change the blend mode to soft light, then clip a hue/saturation layer and adjust the saturation and/or lightness to taste (the flash seems strong to me {white if you will} not sure how to describe...this acts more or less as a white balance adjustment

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Post by pop511 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:58 pm

"The nose jumps out at me, Duck. Don't know whether that was what it was, or you were too close"
Perhaps we should ask Duck what focal length he used.
Can be a problem with any large facial feature such as ears. Cover the ears/place on shadow side/use long focal length.
One eye smaller than the other. Place the small eye on the far side
I have a 85mm lens, but I still prefer my 100-400mm set to about 100-120mm

"her eyes are cocked too far left,"
This is to do with pupil placement to reduce the whites of the eyes as seen by the camera.
You could also have kept the camera where it was, but ask her to rotate her eyes to the right. This can also be a problem with profile shots, where the subject is looking straight ahead. In that situation you get the subject to rotate the eyes slightly back to the camera.
Flash too strong??...EH..No way...Vein detail in eyes can be seen
Left shoulder too bright..Personal taste. I found the face the dominant feature and the shoulder didn't intrude

As a portrait I find nothing wrong with it.
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Post by Duck » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:56 pm

Lots of great comments and feedback. Thanks for that.

In all candor, this was taken during a flash workshop so my main goal was to demonstrate speedlight use, placement, songs, etc., and not so much about portrait technique. For the participants, they got their money's worth. For the model, she got some nice photos. For me...

Yes, all the points mentioned are valid and regardless of whether it was flash workshop or a portrait workshop I need to get into the habit of treating any subject in front of my lens with the same level of detail and that's what I need to work on. In my mind I am discussing flash so I tend to place the portrait rules on a lower priority and I shouldn't.

But, it's a learning process and I have to say that my portrait work is getting much better (for someone who doesn't 'shoot' people).
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Post by St3v3M » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:52 pm

I found cropping above the yellow brought the image to life. S-
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Post by Duck » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:15 pm

St3v3M wrote:
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I found cropping above the yellow brought the image to life. S-
I can see that. It would completely remove that distraction. Thanks.
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Post by St3v3M » Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:17 pm

Duck wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:15 pm
I can see that. It would completely remove that distraction. Thanks.
You could desaturate it too, it all depends what you're looking for! S-
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