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'One Night in Mexico'

Post by davechinn » Mon May 28, 2018 2:26 pm

Took this in 2015 while in Mexico. Two of a three man band at an outside venue at night, with only stage lighting available, which created grain/noise because of the high ISO. I don't care much for the noise but I'm willing to accept it. I cleaned it up best as possible without it starting to have an unpleasant appeal. I masked in a very subtle cloud background, added some fog in the lower foreground along with my normal dark procedure. I also added a gaussian blur to the center area of the image only to create some glow. Opinions and any suggestions? Welcomed !!!
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Post by Matt Quinn » Mon May 28, 2018 3:39 pm

Dave, I like/don't like at the same time. I like the overall mood--gotta learn how to do that. But I don't like the effect on the top left quadrant of the face of the fellow on the left. The contrast is too strong for me. The tonal transitions in the rest of his face are very pleasing. Well done. Matt
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Post by PietFrancke » Mon May 28, 2018 4:36 pm

This is interesting. I like the foggy feel, but the smokiness/fog aspect feels slippery, perhaps from the general smoothness and glistening planes. I'd be tempted to grit it up more with some textures. From a composition point of view, I love the faces and their intentness, but I think the eye is drawn too much to the white shirt.

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Post by Matt Quinn » Mon May 28, 2018 6:26 pm

Piet says it better than I do about what I thought. The shirt is what I first saw then I opened the image and it took a moment to figure out what it was. Then the face of the fellow on the left -- I like a lot -- then back to figure out the shirt and realize there was a person there. If you take Piet's suggestions, I'd like to see it. Matt
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Post by Psjunkie » Mon May 28, 2018 8:11 pm

Will have to agree about the upper white area of the shirt....another nit would be the black coat around his nose area, maybe tone it down just a bit....I do like the image Mr. Chinn...

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Post by minniev » Tue May 29, 2018 4:11 am

Dave this is a challenge, I can tell. I know how difficult stage lighting can be..The grain bothers me most on the face of the nearest guy. The other guy is more hampered by shadows. The blur is a little confusing but may be better than your alternatives. This is one I’m gonna ask you if you’d be willing to share the original. Maybe we can help more if we can see where you started from.
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Post by davechinn » Tue May 29, 2018 12:52 pm

Matt Quinn wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 3:39 pm
Dave, I like/don't like at the same time. I like the overall mood--gotta learn how to do that. But I don't like the effect on the top left quadrant of the face of the fellow on the left. The contrast is too strong for me. The tonal transitions in the rest of his face are very pleasing. Well done. Matt


Thanks Matt !!! I kinda feel as you, like/don't like. This one among others have not been opened or touched in almost three years and I felt the need of a challenge. I appreciate your thoughts though.
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Post by davechinn » Tue May 29, 2018 12:58 pm

PietFrancke wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 4:36 pm
This is interesting. I like the foggy feel, but the smokiness/fog aspect feels slippery, perhaps from the general smoothness and glistening planes. I'd be tempted to grit it up more with some textures. From a composition point of view, I love the faces and their intentness, but I think the eye is drawn too much to the white shirt.


Thanks Piet !!! I never gave thought to add textures, which may definitely make an improvement. I appreciate your comments, tip & visit.
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Post by davechinn » Tue May 29, 2018 1:02 pm

Matt Quinn wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 6:26 pm
Piet says it better than I do about what I thought. The shirt is what I first saw then I opened the image and it took a moment to figure out what it was. Then the face of the fellow on the left -- I like a lot -- then back to figure out the shirt and realize there was a person there. If you take Piet's suggestions, I'd like to see it. Matt


Thanks again, Matt !!! I may play around with this more, but not sure how much.
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Post by davechinn » Tue May 29, 2018 1:06 pm

Psjunkie wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 8:11 pm
Will have to agree about the upper white area of the shirt....another nit would be the black coat around his nose area, maybe tone it down just a bit....I do like the image Mr. Chinn...


I suppose by adding the blur to the center area was maybe too much. It seemed to have made the white shirt area pop, which was the intention, but again, maybe too much. I appreciate your thoughts and may go back to the drawing board.
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