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― Scapes Critique'Super Moon Over Cincinnati'

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'Super Moon Over Cincinnati'

Post by davechinn » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:04 pm

I went out last night to capture some new images of the Cincinnati skyline and not realizing anything about the super moon. My naiveness and ignorance paid off IMO. This is my version of the Super Moon Over Cincinnati. Thoughts, comments and feedback?
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Post by Psjunkie » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:15 pm

I very much like the composition...my question is whether you intentionally wanted that much haze in the entire image??

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Post by LindaShorey » Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:40 pm

A composite? I just did one of my moonset this morning :)

I'd like to see the moon whiter and maybe a tiny bit smaller. Against the strong colors and bright whites of the city, the moon is looking a little muddy and I think it could hold up nicely if brighter/whiter. I love your perspective and the lines leading downtown.
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Post by davechinn » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:21 am

Psjunkie wrote:I very much like the composition...my question is whether you intentionally wanted that much haze in the entire image??


Thanks Frank !!! Some of the haze just happen to be natural, but during the processing I felt a little more was needed. I may have gone too far, but as is for now I'm satisfied. May go back for some additional adjustments though.
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Post by davechinn » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:28 am

LindaShorey wrote:A composite? I just did one of my moonset this morning :)

I'd like to see the moon whiter and maybe a tiny bit smaller. Against the strong colors and bright whites of the city, the moon is looking a little muddy and I think it could hold up nicely if brighter/whiter. I love your perspective and the lines leading downtown.


I debated on a whiter moon, but as you can see, it didn't win. As I mentioned to Frank, I may go back for some additional adjustments. Yes, it's a composite, only because the moon was added over top of the original and I preferred this one over the original, but you may be onto something about the size and brightness. I'll give it some consideration after it sinks in more clearly. Thanks for your comments.
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Post by davechinn » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:50 pm

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LindaShorey wrote:A composite? I just did one of my moonset this morning :)

I'd like to see the moon whiter and maybe a tiny bit smaller. Against the strong colors and bright whites of the city, the moon is looking a little muddy and I think it could hold up nicely if brighter/whiter. I love your perspective and the lines leading downtown.


I debated on a whiter moon, but as you can see, it didn't win. As I mentioned to Frank, I may go back for some additional adjustments. Yes, it's a composite, only because the moon was added over top of the original and I preferred this one over the original, but you may be onto something about the size and brightness. I'll give it some consideration after it sinks in more clearly. Thanks for your comments.
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After some considerable consideration I took yours and Frank's advise. This image was slightly cropped, but not as much as the first post. Where I said I placed the moon overtop of the original was inaccurate. The moon was further to the left. I lost track within my own ignorance. I'm also posting the original image with no crop whatsoever. The only editing done with the original was in camera raw and a slight sensor spot removed. Thanks to both of you, (Linda & Frank) for your helpful suggestions. It takes me a little while to absorb things before I can make a final decision to make changes or leave them as they were.
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Post by LindaShorey » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:11 pm

You are an accomplished artist with a strong pov, Dave. It's admirable and understandable that you take time to mull over suggestions rather than just implement without thought :)

IMO your changes make the moon more natural and part of the scene so I'm not stuck on a feeling of something being not quite right. I have to say I like your original a lot, though! I'm reminded of Minnie's images with "little people" in them. There's definitely a place for little moons too (Graham has one here of Stonehenge or similar?).
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Post by Matt Quinn » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:51 am

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davechinn wrote:
LindaShorey wrote:A composite? I just did one of my moonset this morning :)

I'd like to see the moon whiter and maybe a tiny bit smaller. Against the strong colors and bright whites of the city, the moon is looking a little muddy and I think it could hold up nicely if brighter/whiter. I love your perspective and the lines leading downtown.


I debated on a whiter moon, but as you can see, it didn't win. As I mentioned to Frank, I may go back for some additional adjustments. Yes, it's a composite, only because the moon was added over top of the original and I preferred this one over the original, but you may be onto something about the size and brightness. I'll give it some consideration after it sinks in more clearly. Thanks for your comments.
Dave


After some considerable consideration I took yours and Frank's advise. This image was slightly cropped, but not as much as the first post. Where I said I placed the moon overtop of the original was inaccurate. The moon was further to the left. I lost track within my own ignorance. I'm also posting the original image with no crop whatsoever. The only editing done with the original was in camera raw and a slight sensor spot removed. Thanks to both of you, (Linda & Frank) for your helpful suggestions. It takes me a little while to absorb things before I can make a final decision to make changes or leave them as they were.
Dave


Dave, I really like the final image; the moon looks more natural in size and color. It looked like the Death Star in the first. The lights and darks of the city at night are marvelous and rich. Question; how did you get rid of the cloud around the moon? Matt
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Post by davechinn » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:13 pm

LindaShorey wrote:You are an accomplished artist with a strong pov, Dave. It's admirable and understandable that you take time to mull over suggestions rather than just implement without thought :)

IMO your changes make the moon more natural and part of the scene so I'm not stuck on a feeling of something being not quite right. I have to say I like your original a lot, though! I'm reminded of Minnie's images with "little people" in them. There's definitely a place for little moons too (Graham has one here of Stonehenge or similar?).


Linda, I'm trying to learn from my own mistakes and while in the past have been guilty of responding prematurely, I'm finding that it's much more rewarding to mull over things before inserting foot in mouth. Although, it is a struggle. Thanks again, much appreciated.
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Post by davechinn » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:40 pm

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davechinn wrote:
I debated on a whiter moon, but as you can see, it didn't win. As I mentioned to Frank, I may go back for some additional adjustments. Yes, it's a composite, only because the moon was added over top of the original and I preferred this one over the original, but you may be onto something about the size and brightness. I'll give it some consideration after it sinks in more clearly. Thanks for your comments.
Dave


After some considerable consideration I took yours and Frank's advise. This image was slightly cropped, but not as much as the first post. Where I said I placed the moon overtop of the original was inaccurate. The moon was further to the left. I lost track within my own ignorance. I'm also posting the original image with no crop whatsoever. The only editing done with the original was in camera raw and a slight sensor spot removed. Thanks to both of you, (Linda & Frank) for your helpful suggestions. It takes me a little while to absorb things before I can make a final decision to make changes or leave them as they were.
Dave


Dave, I really like the final image; the moon looks more natural in size and color. It looked like the Death Star in the first. The lights and darks of the city at night are marvelous and rich. Question; how did you get rid of the cloud around the moon? Matt


Thanks Matt !!! My first attempt was a somewhat failure, but a learning experience as well. I agree, the first one does give a "Death Star" impression. That was not my intention. I didn't reveal that it was a composite in my opening, but had planned to later, my mistake. However, I did want this image to be realistic as possible.

The clouds were simply removed by cropping the original and placing the moon image back in as close as possible to where it had been prior to the crop. Although, I did want some clouds by the moon and there are some and I also added some stars, but very subtle on both, stars and clouds.
Dave

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