minniev wrote:Totally agree with you Chuck! Every photo I take is pretty much an experiment, and every image I post is a calculated risk to see who, if anyone, thinks it's acceptable, and what they think I should have done instead of what I did, to get what I wanted out of it. I know what I like, but that doesn't mean I think it's any good. I'm forever tinkering with new ways to shoot, compose, process. If I can't get out and shoot new stuff, I try new things with old pictures. I love taking images outside the realm of reality with the "art-ish" kinds of processing with a gazillion masks, textures and whatnot. Photography is a never ending adventure for me, and I can't imagine getting bored as long as I have a camera and a computer.
That said, it's easy to see why I really like the direction pM seems to be going, with an emphasis on shared learning. It suits my way of doing photography far better than a straightforward critique or image-rating forum would.
Steven G Webb wrote:A young boy sang, "Twinkle twinkle little star how I wonder what you are" that young boy grew up and acquired a college degree and proudly looked up at the night sky and sang "Twinkle twinkle little star, now I know just what you are" after years of life experience and with acquired wisdom that little boy now with silver hair looked up at the sky and sang with melancholy , "Twinkle twinkle little star, how I wonder what you are". There are few sermons I recall from my childhood and that is a portion of one. The message was that there is a vast difference between education and wisdom.
I was an arrogant young man. I was studious and considered bright by teachers and classmates alike and I knew it. I'm pretty quick at concept grasp. Being smart has been an undoing for me. Photography is the great equalizer. I'm not excellent at it and the failures keep me humble. The tools at my disposal are the same as yours and all the masters you can name yet I struggle to make really nice photographs. Learning is never ending. One of the great lessons is the discovery of ones own ignorance; comprehending that there are things, specific things that I do not know is just as important as all the things I realize I know. I hope that as grey displaces dark hair and the lines deepen in my face that I grow as both technician and artist.
Duck wrote:In regards to learning photography, I always get a chuckle from those that expound how they are "self-taught".
I have always been an artist. I often kid that I picked up crayons as a toddler and never put them down. When I was in grammar and high school there really were no 'advanced' art programs for me. I was bunched in with the 'elective' kids who saw art a a free class to goof around in. Frustration led me to seek out my own education. I found refuge at my local library, the PLumb Memorial Library, surrounded by tons of art books, from the masters to the modernists, surrealists to comic book art. I have a short list of some of my greatest influences. What I couldn't learn in high school art class I learned from books. Sadly I encountered a similar mentality at college. I was frustrated, as an ART major, to be lumped in with the elective people. Talk about reducing the class to the lowest common denominator. I felt cheated, but that's another rant.
Years later, any time anyone asked me if I went to school for art I would respond, "yes, the Plumb Memorial School of Art." In reality, I had a great many famous teachers; Howard Pyle, Aubrey Beardsley, Davinci and Rembrandt, Bill Sienkiewicz and Charles Schulz and many more.
That same mentality is still with me to this day. Instead of art it's photography and processing. I study with people I can relate to; Dean Collins, Bryan Peterson, Ted Forbes, Unmesh Dinda and even our very own members here on the forum. So to those that claim they are 'self taught' I say, "bullcrap!" You are not self taught you are just learning from others in a self paced manner.
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